Monday, April 9, 2007

Picking up 9's and 10's

Picking up 9's and 10's


Most guys believe that 9's and 10's are super hard to get and that you need to have ultra strong game. Which is not true. The Game you play on those girls is just different. It’s not harder or easier, just different!


It’s the same effort and it takes same time, but the style of game is very different. In some ways gaming 7's can be harder then 9.5's.

Let me explain.


7's and 8's – dont want a total chump – nice guy, they want a guy who is kinda strong(Alpha), so they can rely on him(insecurity problem), BUT at same time, she wants some kind of emotional connection with him(Rapport).

So your game needs to be calibrated so fucking good for those girls. You will need to calibrate how dominant you are to get good Attraction, and how much Rapport you need to pull her into bed. Every girl is going to be different. It's very personal how much Attraction\ Rapport she needs. There are so many factors that controls this ratio, and formula is complicated.


Here are a few factors :

-Parents ( who is more dominant in house ) - they always search for a father role in future BF
-First sexual experience \ First boyfriend (for example, if guy was cheating her she will search lots of rapport & trust in next guys who come, and less Atraction)
-Last boyfriend (If guy was bad in sex, she will go for guys who are more dominant, sexual.
-Her friends (her friends have lot of influence on her, and she will mirror their value)

So probably now you understand why its not possible to tell how much attraction or rapport she may need before you start talking with a girl. It’s almost impossible to create prefect model thats going to wok in every case. That’s why those 7's and 8's require a shitload of calibration.


Rule of thumb is that those girls need way more rapport then attraction.
CA - LI - BR - ATE

With very very beautiful & sexy girls, ( 9's and10's ) it’s a very different story.
FIRST Lets take a look what's happening in their life :

- Parents know how beautiful she is, and they treat her whole life as a Diamond.
- In a High School she is a Princess, and guys starting to hit on her left and right. All guys want to have sex with her.
- Everytime she goes out, guys are licking her ass, and do everything she wants, as they think thats the way to get into her panties.
- All guys are super, super insecure around her, and treat her super nice.

-She finds rich Boyfriend (Sponsor) who buys her everything. He's fun for a while, after some time she dumps him.
- When she asks for something she gets it!

Now you can see a problem. Everyone wants to create rapport with her, and is super nice. So basically to be different, and to create attraction, you need to break every possible rapport with her. And don't want to connect with her at all. You need to be different then everyone else. You need to show that you are not affected with her beauty at all, and you dont think she is special at all. You need to be total selfish bastard.
This is part of game I love to play.

With those girls, there is no Rapport at all. She needs to create rapport with you. On first sign that you like her and you want to connect with her may be a turn off for her.
She knows she can get everything she wants, and when she start getting it, it gets boring. So dont give her what she wants. Consciously or Unconsciously.

10: Can you hand me this glass?
Me : You have arms and legs .

10 sms : „ I am helping my friend he has a problem with Gf, she takes drugs..blabla... He needs my help“
Me : „ Give him a Blowjob“

10 : I thik I want to live somewhere else, maybe New York, Or.. I donno.. Africa maybe as well
Me : „ yea, go to Jungle, thats best for you.

10 : I like Xy
Me : I hate Xy


Its interesting. She will stay around you as long as you do this. I personally feel very stupid being around those girls, But as for playing this game I Love it.

Be carefull with their IOI's.


From time to time they will throw something very personal, like a compliment.. but its only a test on the unconscious level.
”You are so special, I love to be around you, no one makes me feel so sexy... I like you, I cant stop thinking about you....“

Something like this will happen after you become very strong in her life, and you think the game is over. You think she is yours, you got her. BUT
I made this mistake so many times. If you reply something like “I like you too.. I am thinking about you as well“ If you do this its game over. You lost her. You showed affection. You are just like all other guys.


This is super sensitive game with them.You can make only one mistake.

Its best if you just keep it rolling, and stay congruent with your original image.
Its very hard, but you must be total non-emotional dick with them.

Attitude to have is “She is just little kid that peed in her panties, and is crying for attention.“

An Opener I love to use on these girls is, “Are you a Man or a Woman“ with a totally serious face.


Let the bitch qualify herself.

10's are not that hard at all when you are around them alone. The only problem with 10's is you cant find them in regular life, and there are not enough of them even at the best nightclubs.

Badboy

5 comments:

Johnny Soporno said...

I can't argue with any of this, BB, as it pertains to first-interaction pick-up. It's on-the-money to be sure.
On the other hand, my own experience has taught me that building enduring, ongoing relationships (involving sex) with fantasically beautiful girls requires sincerity and deserved self-confidence, which tend to belie the initial posturing which you're suggesting here.

I'll agree that it's VERY important that the girl NOT get the sense that you are behaving out-of-the-norm for yourself; but I can't bring myself to treat a woman LESS like a lady because she's particularily beautiful... I just don't permit my appreciation for her looks detract me from her NEED for someone to treat her NORMALLY.

In essence, most super-hot girls are DESPERATE for a man to treat her EXACTLY as she deserves to be treated... If they are posturing themselves as untouchable bitches, they deserve to be treated poorly. But if the girl is stunning AND sweet-natured, she deserves to be treated as any other sweet girl does; not worse because she's prettier. [If you DO treat her unusually poorly because she's so beautiful-looking, she'll sense that you have anger-issues related to her presumed-inaccessibility, and discount you. You disqualify yourself because you can't JUST be you.]

Any thoughts?

Johnny Soporno said...

I can't argue with any of this, BB, as it pertains to first-interaction pick-up. It's on-the-money to be sure.
On the other hand, my own experience has taught me that building enduring, ongoing relationships (involving sex) with fantasically beautiful girls requires sincerity and deserved self-confidence, which tend to belie the initial posturing which you're suggesting here.

I'll agree that it's VERY important that the girl NOT get the sense that you are behaving out-of-the-norm for yourself; but I can't bring myself to treat a woman LESS like a lady because she's particularily beautiful... I just don't permit my appreciation for her looks detract me from her NEED for someone to treat her NORMALLY.

In essence, most super-hot girls are DESPERATE for a man to treat her EXACTLY as she deserves to be treated... If they are posturing themselves as untouchable bitches, they deserve to be treated poorly. But if the girl is stunning AND sweet-natured, she deserves to be treated as any other sweet girl does; not worse because she's prettier. [If you DO treat her unusually poorly because she's so beautiful-looking, she'll sense that you have anger-issues related to her presumed-inaccessibility, and discount you. You disqualify yourself because you can't JUST be you.]

Any thoughts?

Anonymous said...

the biggest problem with this whole jerk vs niceguy concept you're talking about here (which has been around for a while) is HOW DO YOU INCORPORATE THIS INTO A PICK UP?

This makes more sense if u see the girl repeatedly at work or school, etc. but when you have to walk up to a girl on the street or try to timebridge after approaching a girl, it is VERY difficult to get a day 2 or get any solid results besides some IOI's. This 'breaking rapport' advice is missing the important steps of what to do afterwards.

Jason Abdian said...

I LOVE THAT OPENER LOL

Cody said...

I don't Know but this POST surely sounds a lot of NOT BEING Yourself and acting over the top.

According to me:

If you got good inner game, You need not to do all this BS.

HB: I like Yoga.
Cody: Ye good for health, You know where this stuff started from?
.....

DOn't give the data right away. Like Yoga started in India in 1700 BC or so..

Make her work for it and you can disqualify her for this that she is just a face and knows JACK SHIT.

She going to prove she is smart.

Hb: I like cats
Cody: GOOD for you! I don't

And bf thing sounded bit OTT (over the top)

She want to share some value from her life. Why do you want to deny a VALUE?

She is trying to be comfortable with you by giving something from her life to you. Her stories.

In short be genuine and hold your ground still. If she is acting bitch.. I just tell her she reminds me of movie called Dracula.. Who is going to suck life out of me and make her act like monkey.